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Monday, May 19, 2008

4 Officers To Be Fired Over Taped Beating

Way to go Commissioner- throw the cops under the bus.
Whatever happened to due process?? Oh, I guess that doesn't apply to cops. Only criminals, thugs, and the savages that are ruining this city get due process, and are innocent before proven guilty in a court of law. Don't be surprised when this city is taken over by the savages that you are protecting.


More than a dozen Philadelphia Police officers disciplined because of that beating caught on tape.

"This is something that required immediate or at least quick action," said Philadelphia Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey

With his deputies and the mayor at his side, Commissioner Ramsey announced swift disciplinary action against 8 of the 18 officers captured on news helicopter video back on May 5th. The officers were seen kicking and hitting three suspects wanted in connection with a shooting of three men in Hunting Park just minutes before.

Ramsey said today, "Many of the officers acted properly. Many did not. Those who did not have to suffer the consequences of those actions."

Mayor Michael Nutter explains, "We take these matters very seriously."

Outside police headquarters, a group of protestors called the disciplinary action inadequate.
(I guess these protesters didn't have to go to work today. )


Saturday, May 17, 2008

Keep Your Mouth Shut, Please...

Today, I worked a pretty good detail. It was called the "Sorrento Cheese Festival".


It was located in South Philly, in the heart of the Italian Market. The festival took up about half dozen blocks, and the streets were filled with Italian food vendors and musicians. The people of South Philly love cops and showed their appreciation by thanking us for the job we do. It's nice to know that we're appreciated somewhere. I certainly don't get this in my district. The vendors took care of us and we basically ate and drank (soda, water, and juice) for free all day. The food was delicious and the music was good. Too bad I couldn't have a few beers.

The festival was a family-oriented event, and the people were friendly and warmhearted. Hundreds of people filled the streets by noon time. Usually, I hate working these types of details, but I truly had a good time today. I didn't even feel like I was working, and I got paid for it! But I just have one question.

Why must people feel the need to share their most intimate problems and/or secrets with me? I'm really not interested; especially if you're straight. Sorry, it just doesn't interest me. Maybe it's the uniform or maybe it's my friendly appearance. Well, whatever the reason is, I really wish people would stop and think before they decide to tell a stranger some of their deep, darkest secrets.

Case in point.
A couple of slightly drunk women approached us (I was with 4 other cops) and chit chatted with us for a while. We knew they were slightly intoxicated, but they weren't causing any problems. Jennifer and I decided to take a walk to the other end of the festival when one of the women introduced herself to me. Then, out of the blue, she told me she wasn't happy with her boyfriend because he has a small dick. What???? I tried not to laugh (really, lol) and I asked her if he knew how to use it? Because if he knows how to use it, length doesn't matter. It was obvious he didn't know how to use it because she said he doesn't make her cum. Hmm,o.k., and why are you telling me this? I look at Jenn and she's completely red. Here we are at a family event, working, and this woman whom I don't even know, is telling me about her sex life. I grabbed Jenn by the arm and practically ran away from this woman. Can you say psycho? LOL

Yeah, these are the type of women I attract.

Thursday, May 15, 2008

You Park Like An Asshole

Some people just have too much time on their hands. However, I found this website hilarious! If you've ever been the victim of an idiot parker, this website is for you, lol.

Here is an excerpt:
Sick of a car taking up two spaces on the street? How about a car too close to yours? What about the car at the mall parked diagonally? Now you can do something about it. Simply download a notice and place it on the car's windshield. The owner of the vehicle will be informed of their asshole status as well as the proper tips to improve their poor parking techniques. It's time to put an end to asshole parking, or at least to make fun of it.



**NOTE: youparklikeanasshole.com does not support
making the notices provided into stickers in the intent
to adhere said notices onto offending assholes.**



you park like an asshole




Barack's Bitter Half

Michelle Malkin is an excellent political commentator. I love reading her work, and I try to watch her whenever she appears on The O'Reilly Factor. Yes, I do watch Bill.
In my opinion, Michelle is brilliant, witty, sensible, intellectual, honest, clever, straightforward, and beautiful. In other words, my type of woman, lol.

A friend of mine sent me an e-mail containing an editorial she wrote on Mrs. Obama a few days ago. As usual, Michelle's viewpoint is straightforward and witty. This woman doesn't hold back. She tells it the way she sees it. And I love that about her. (are you married, Michelle? LOL)

My opinion on Mrs. Obama. She's just as deceiving as her husband is.

"In one of her few (unintentionally) funny moments during a recent sit-down with comedian Stephen Colbert, Mrs. Obama claimed, "Barack and I tend to look at the positives." That's a side-splitter." (After watching this for a couple of minutes, I had to turn it off)


Call Barack's Bitter Half Mrs. O (Woe Is Me)


By MICHELLE MALKIN | Posted Monday, May 12, 2008 4:30 PM PT

Are you ready for hope and change? Barack Obama better hope his bitter half has a change of attitude if she expects to assume the title of first lady in November.

She's been likened to John F. Kennedy's wife, what with her chic suits and pearls and perfectly coiffed helmet hair. But when she opens her mouth, Michelle O is less Jackie O and more Wendy W — as in Wendy Whiner, the constantly kvetching "Saturday Night Live" character from the early '80s.

When last our worldviews collided, back in February, the other Michelle was expounding on her lack of pride in America. I gave her myriad reasons to cheer up — from America's role in the fall of communism to our unparalleled generosity to our nation's superior economic system, cultural resilience, entrepreneurial spirit and ingenuity.

But since then, Mrs. Obama has dug in her $500 Jimmy Choo heels and solidified her role in the 2008 presidential campaign as Queen of the Grievance-Mongers.

In one of her few (unintentionally) funny moments during a recent sit-down with comedian Stephen Colbert, Mrs. Obama claimed, "Barack and I tend to look at the positives." That's a side-splitter.

As National Review's Yuval Levin put it, Michelle Obama is "America's unhappiest millionaire." And she has the audacity to extrapolate her misery and her husband's alleged victimization to the "vast majority of Americans."

In South Carolina, she called America "just downright mean" and bemoaned "a nation of struggling folks who are barely making it every day."

And in case you hadn't heard enough of her carping about how hard it is for a seven-figure-earning family to pay for ballet lessons and piano lessons and pay off college loans, Mrs. Oh-Woe-Is-Me was at it again on the campaign trail in Indiana and North Carolina before last week's primary.

On the stump, she warmed up (or rather, berated) supporters by complaining about how her husband is an underdog even after he keeps winning primary and caucus after primary and caucus. With a scowl etched on her face, she bellyached that "the bar is constantly changing for this man." Call the waambulance, stat.

Barack Obama, the missus explains, is Everyman who has ever been put down by The Man. And "understand this" (a condescending verbal tic shared by both Obamas): Mrs. Obama is here to make sure you feel their pain.

Which is really your pain. Because the hardships of a privileged Ivy League couple are "exactly" the same as the travails of miners or service workers or small-business owners: "So the bar has been shifting and moving in this race," she grumbles, "but the irony is, the sad irony is, that's exactly what is happening to most Americans in this country."

Don't tell Miss Michelle about the Great Depression or the Carter Malaise. "Folks are struggling like never before," she seethes.

Well, yes, gas prices are up. Some food prices are rising. And borrowers who bought more housing than they could afford are underwater. But "struggling like never before"? Didn't they teach her about Hoovervilles and stagflation?

In Mrs. Obama, the fear-mongering pot meets the angst-stirring kettle: "Fear," she froths, "creates this veil of impossibility and it is hanging over all of our heads."

But what Mrs. Obama lacks in pride for her country and its promise she more than makes up for with bottomless pride for her husband. Her standard campaign speeches include at least a dozen references to how "proud" she is of him. And of herself. And of everyone who has overcome The Man and pierced the "veil of impossibility" to get to the polls and vote Obama.

An online MSNBC report on a joint appearance by the Obamas on the "Today" show in the wake of the Jeremiah Wright debacle included this tellingly narcissistic passage:

(Mrs. Obama): "I'm so proud of how he has maintained his dignity, his cool, his honor." Obama gently tried to interrupt, admitting to being embarrassed by the praise. "But I am proud of you,' she said. "I know," he replied.

We all know. So get over yourself already, haughty spirit. Pride doesn't photograph well. And bitterness leaves frown lines. Which means Botox bills. Which "struggling folks" like you and your husband simply cannot afford.

Try smiling for once. It's cheaper.

The McKenna Men Win Their Case

Former City Police Officers Win $10 Million In Suit

Three former Philadelphia police officers who contended they suffered retaliation because they opposed discrimination against African Americans on their squad were rejoicing today in the $10 million verdict awarded by a federal court jury.

"We got justice," declared William McKenna, 42, of Northeast Philadelphia, outside the U.S. Courthouse the day after he and his former fellow officers - his twin brother, Michael, and Raymond Carnation - won the hard-fought case.

Late Wednesday, a federal court jury awarded $2 million to Carnation, $3 million to William McKenna and $5 million to Michael McKenna after deliberating three hours.

The three plaintiffs, who are white, alleged that they suffered retaliation because they opposed a racially hostile work environment and discrimination against African Americans on their squad at the 25th Police District.

What The...

LOL!!!! I am speechless!

Wednesday, May 14, 2008

Woman Accused Of Faking Cancer To Avoid Work

WTF!?

What the hell is wrong with people today? She actually thought she was going to go undetected and not get caught? She should be taken to a cancer treatment facility and bitch slapped by every cancer patient
.

ARLINGTON, Wash. — A former Washington state social worker has been accused of faking brain cancer to avoid work. Theft charges were filed Tuesday against Sandra Dee Martinez, 40, formerly of Mountlake Terrace, who was employed by the Department of Social and Health Services in Arlington.

According to investigators, Martinez presented fake letters that appeared to be from doctors saying she had malignant brain tumors. Prosecutors wrote that she received $21,000 worth of paid leave and took advantage of sick days donated by co-workers last year.

Prosecutors wrote that Martinez came under scrutiny after using a neighbor's computer and leaving one of the letters on the printer.

Arlington Police Chief John Gray says Martinez has moved to another state and won't speak with investigators.

Stupid bitch.

Another Shooting,

and we're (24th) still not counted among the "9" districts. Even after the murder of Sgt. Liczbinski, the Commissioner has not included the 24th among the "9" districts in need of manpower. We need more cops! Before the Sgt was killed, the district had many (too many) shootings. And now that one of our own was so ruthlessly murdered, you'd think he would help us and give us more manpower. No. But what do I know; I'm just a cop.

Anyway, on to yesterday's shooting. If I had not been on the scene, I probably wouldn't have believed it. The entire event was unbelievable, surreal. I've been to many homicide and suicide scenes, but I never witnessed such appalling behavior as I did yesterday.

The call...that dreaded call of a shooting, male down on the hwy.

I was the third car that arrived on location. As I tried to make my way to the shooting victim (?), I started to take control of the scene and ordered the dozen or so bystanders to step away from the crime scene. A handful of people were hysterically crying, screaming at the cops, screaming at each other, and obviously out of control. They were trying to get to the male that was lying face down, in a puddle of blood, on the sidewalk. To do what, I have no idea. They certainly weren't doctors. I will never understand why people impede the efforts of the police and the medics when they're trying to render aid to an injured person (s).

The male had been shot in the head. There was so much blood on the pavement, it ran like a river down the street. You'd think two people were shot. As more people gathered (where the hell did they come from?), the scene quickly became chaotic. I asked radio to send more cars for crowd control. These people were just out of control. There were only 6 or 7 cops and about 20 to 30 irate people at the shooting scene. Yes, we needed help.

Since the medic unit hadn't arrived yet, the wagon crew attempted to transport the victim to the hospital. When the officers turned the male over on to his back, blood and brain matter spilled out. The people saw this and went berserk! Little did I know that some of the people were relatives of the male. Once again, I asked radio for help. The people were trying to get at the male (why?), and the crime scene was being compromised. It was pandemonium.
One guy (who I later found out to be the victim's drug buddy) either fell or threw himself onto the victim. If the victim wasn't dead then, he was surely dead now.

Within minutes, the medics arrived, scooped up the male, and quickly took him to the hospital.
Do you think it ended there? No. The relatives of the male went to the hospital and created a chaotic scene over there as well.

Do you think any witnesses came forward to provide information so the police can apprehend the shooter? Of course not. He was (or is, he's still alive at this time) a drug dealer.
Yet, had it been a police shooting, witnesses would have crawled out of their holes claiming they saw everything.

Yesterday's events reminded me of how morally bankrupt this city is.

Friday, May 09, 2008

A Sad Day In Philadelphia

You will be greatly missed, Steve.


Mourners Say Goodbye To Slain Sergeant

On a dreary day that matched the mood, the Philadelphia Police Department turned out in force to bury one of its own.

Sgt. Stephen Liczbinski was remembered Friday as a hero who died in the line of duty as well as a loving husband and father.

The rain didn't stop thousands from coming out to bid a final farewell to a man who they said answered the call, who did his job, and who made the ultimate sacrifice.

Mourners lined up in the pouring rain Friday outside the Cathedral Basilica of Saints Peter & Paul to pay their respects to Liczbinski, who was fatally shot Saturday.

Inside, a sea of blue and sadness filled the cathedral as a community said goodbye to one of its protectors and a family said goodbye to a husband, father and brother.

Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey set the tone."Every day, we send men and women into harm's way, patrolling the streets of our city, knowing full well of the danger, but also knowing there's a job that has to get done," Ramsey told the rows of packed pews."Steve isn't a hero in my mind because of how he died," Ramsey said. "He's a hero because many years ago he made the decision, he answered a call, he knew that he wanted to help others. ... He chose to become a police officer."

The mass was also a celebration of Liczbinski's life. Friends said he was "a cop's cop" and a family man. Liczbinski's open casket was lined with framed photos of his family. His love of the Philadelphia Flyers was also on display: his casket's lining bore the hockey team's emblem, and a jersey and flower arrangement in the shape of the logo were on display nearby. Even the hearse included Flyers memorabilia.

Liczbinski's son, Matt, made clear his father was a dedicated fan, and he lightened the mood by asking the mourners to chant and clap loud enough so his father could hear them cheering for his favorite team.

"Let's go Flyers, let's go," the crowd yelled, followed by clapping. "Thank you everyone," Matt Liczbinski said. The chant came just hours before the Flyers take on the Pittsburgh Penguins in Game One of the NHL's Eastern Conference Finals. The slain sergeant's son also talked about his child-like admiration for his father, saying a friend recently told him, "You're the only 24-year-old kid, like an 8-year-old, who still thought his dad could beat up any other guy in the world."

Before the ceremony, thousands of police from the area and all around the country came to give their comrade one last salute. They and local dignitaries who attended said they have lost a family member, too. Their main concern now is supporting his family. "While Steve is no longer with us, he is closer to you than ever. Jesus assures us that that type of love never ends. I know there will be those times when you will feel his presence. And while you will not see him, you will know he's there -- there helping you, guiding you and loving you deeply as he always did," said Rev. Joseph McFadden, Auxiliary Bishop of Philadelphia.

Comforting words were mixed with offerings and signs of solidarity, including fellow officers coming up one-by-one to place roses in vases by the casket.

Looking at Liczbinski's family, Ramsey said, "Michelle, let me say this: We are here today. … We'll be with you tomorrow, next week, next month. We will be with you forever. We can't bring Stephen back … but what we can do is honor his memory, his legacy, honor each and every one of you," Ramsey added.


Many Stood Out In Rain For Funeral

As Liczbinski's body was carried from the cathedral, hundreds of police officers from all around the Delaware Valley area and much further away stood at attention.
Some of the officers were left with no option but to brave the cold, frigid rain and watch the services on a jumbo television.

"It's pretty much a solemn mood. I mean, you lose one of the fellows officers, it's something that strikes you inside and you have to think about a little reflection on yourself, the day's events and your life, too," 6th District Officer Gary Kustra said.

Whether they were inside or outside, the special blue bond that makes each officer at each department family was evident. "It's more of an emotional event because you're with fellow officers, and you kind of share the feeling. You know you're not alone, and that's something that we all have to face every day," Kustra said.

And among the sea of uniforms standing along the sidewalks and in the park were those who never donned a uniform but simply wanted to pay their respects. "I've been touch by this, and I wanted to show my respects," one man said. "I think it's great that they all made time to get here and, you know, for one of their fallen colleagues that's respect," a woman said. And for Philadelphia police especially, the dangerous reality of life on the job was once again realized. "It's just a very sad thing. It's happened too soon and too often," Philadelphia police Captain Bill Fischer said.


'Last Call' Made At Cemetery

A lengthy motorcade with hundreds of police cars from all jurisdictions up and down the East Coast made its way over the Vine Street Expressway, up Interstate 95 and then to Resurrection Cemetery on Hulmeville Road in Bensalem by just after 3 p.m.

A color guard marched in followed by bagpipers and a police helicopter flew above the cemetery grounds before the hearse arrived.

Then, a simple and somber graveside ceremony filled with emotion and traditions important to the department was held before internment. Every motion had a purpose. A long line of 200 police recruits and 100 Philadelphia police officers stood at attention, lining the path to the vault.

The most powerful part came at the "last call," when Liczbinski's badge was officially retired. The last call to which he responded was replayed over a public address system, then he was called out to three times ceremoniously.

When there was no response, a dispatcher was asked to take the sergeant's name off of the assignment board.

The plot number for Liczbinski's gravesite is 486, the same as his badge number.

Preparations Began Before Dawn

Before 6 a.m., piper drum corps lined up at police headquarters as Liczbinski's body was transferred from a hearse to an historic, horse-drawn caisson at police headquarters.

Then, the carriage traveled about a mile through city streets to reach the cathedral. Philadelphia Police Department Chief Inspector Joseph Sullivan, who coordinated many of the events, described the carriage beforehand. "It's black, it's windows on all sides. It will be adorned with mourning drapes. Even the straps for the horses are black," Sullivan said. "It's an honor that's reserved often for presidents and heads-of-states."The police commissioner led that procession.

Sullivan said the pallbearers were officers from the 24th and 4th districts who worked with the sergeant and are very close to him. Officers also processed to Liczbinski's Thursday night viewing at the Givnish Funeral Home in Northeast Philadelphia. Once Friday morning's viewing began, hundreds of police officers and members of the public signed guest books and filed by the casket. Television monitors throughout the cathedral played a slideshow of pictures from Liczbinski's life.

Flyers React To Funeral Chant

The Flyers released a statement Tuesday afternoon. "We are all deeply saddened by the tragic news of the loss of Philadelphia police Sgt. Stephen Liczbinski. "We are aware of his loyalty, passion and enthusiasm for the Philadelphia Flyers, and we will honor him with a moment of silence before our game on Tuesday."


Final Suspect Captured, Arraigned

The Philadelphia District Attorney's Office announced that the final suspect, Eric Floyd, 33, was arraigned early Friday morning. Floyd was arraigned on murder charges and related offenses at
4:30 a.m. and was held without bail.
Authorities captured Floyd late Wednesday night in the Kingsessing section of the city.

Thursday, May 08, 2008

Cop Killer Caught!!!

Finally!

Final Captured Suspect Wears Slain Sergeant's Handcuffs

Police acting on a tip closed in on an abandoned Southwest Philadelphia row house late Wednesday night and captured the third suspect in the death of a police officer shot in a weekend confrontation with bank robbery suspects.

Eric Floyd, 33, and a woman identified as his girlfriend, were taken into custody in a second-floor bedroom of the dilapidated house in the Kingsessing neighborhood with boarded-up windows shortly after 11 p.m. Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey said Floyd was unarmed and did not resist.
Police said Floyd made a statement and is cooperating with police.

He was arrested five days after the fatal shooting and a day before Sgt. Stephen Liczbinski's funeral. Police scoured the city and investigated more than 100 tips.

Authorities continued to hold the crime scene on the 5400 block of Windsor Avenue where Floyd and his girlfriend were captured, collecting evidence they say will help in the suspect's conviction.

Mayor Michael Nutter told a news conference early Thursday he confronted the suspect as he arrived in a van at police headquarters and voiced disappointment "as one African-American male to another."

Floyd arrived locked in the handcuffs of the slain sergeant, a 12-year veteran and married father of three who was killed with an assault weapon on Saturday, Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey said. "It's a way of just paying tribute to the slain officer," Ramsey said. Police had pursued a flood of tips for days in an intensive manhunt for the last suspect remaining at large, and Nutter said Liczbinski's wife, Michelle, was "very pleased" at news of the capture. "We know we're a safer city because that individual, that menace to society is off the street," Nutter said. "We cannot bring Stephen back but we can certainly bring some closure to this entire matter," he added.

Nutter said he was two feet away as Floyd was taken from the van. "I had to look in the face of a guy who would do something like that, and quite frankly as one African-American male to another, just tell him how disappointed I was in what he had done," he said.

"I looked him dead in his eye and said, 'I'm disappointed in you.' And then I asked the officers to take him away," Nutter said. "He had no reaction. He was caught."

One suspect, Howard Cain, 33, had been shot to death by police on Saturday during a chase after the robbery. A local mosque has since refused to conduct a funeral for him. Another, Levon Warner, 38, was arrested and charged Sunday with murder, robbery, conspiracy and related offenses. Officials said earlier a reward for information leading to the arrest of Floyd had grown to $150,000. Ramsey said Thursday he didn't know yet who might receive reward money.

Nutter and other officials had urged Floyd to turn himself in and warned that anyone who helped him would also be prosecuted.

Liczbinski, who would have turned 40 on Tuesday, was shot responding to the robbery in Port Richmond around 11:45 a.m. Saturday. The suspects opened fire after Liczbinski confronted them a short distance away, shooting the officer at least five times, police said. Officials have announced a memorial fund for his family. Police Commissioner Charles Ramsey said officers had been on edge since Liczbinski was shot.

In an incident two days later, video taken by a television news helicopter showed three suspects being kicked, punched and beaten after they were pulled out of a car following an unrelated shooting. Officials said more than a dozen officers would be taken off the street as authorities investigate, and Ramsey said police needed to maintain a high standard of conduct despite the tensions.

Floyd's arrest brought a sense of ease to the Port Richmond neighborhood where Liczbinski was fatally shot Saturday.

Before the arrest, a tension bored into the close-knit neighborhood, but early Thursday, the winds of change blew through the corner of Almond and Shiller streets, the spot where the officer was fatally shot.
Throughout the night, people stopped at a neighborhood shrine dedicated to the slain sergeant.

Although many neighborhood residents never met Liczbinski, they remembered him, the man some of them held as he lay dying in the street after being shot with an assault weapon. He asked the strangers to tell his family he loved them.

Three Officers Slain In Two Years

Liczbinski was the third city officer slain on duty in two years.

Officer Chuck Cassidy, 54, was killed during the botched robbery of a doughnut shop on Oct. 31. The alleged gunman was arrested at a homeless shelter in Miami days later and is awaiting trial.

In May 2006, Officer Gary Skerski was fatally shot in the neck when a man robbing a bar fired a shotgun out the back door. Solomon Montgomery pleaded guilty to first-degree murder and was sentenced to life in prison.

Tuesday, May 06, 2008

Fire Commissioner Ayers Refuses Flag Lowered To Half-Staff

Disgrace!!!

Not only is this a slap in the face to the Liczbinski family, but to the PPD and PFD as well.

Commissioner Ayers retire now. You are disgrace to the PFD.

AYERS BALKS AT ORDER ON FLAG DISPLAY

WHEN MAYOR NUTTER declared a 30-day period of mourning on Saturday for slain Police Sgt. Stephen Liczbinski, he asked that all flags in the city be lowered to half-staff for that period.

But according to the Flag Code, only the president of the United States or a governor can order the flag lowered to half-staff. And yesterday, it became clear that the Fire Department was not going to comply with the mayor's request.

"This has been the law for 54 years, since Eisenhower was president, when he proclaimed that only the president and governor can give the order to fly flags at half-staff," said Fire Commissioner Lloyd Ayers. "Only our American flag can be honored and respected that way.

"The president on the federal level and the governor on the state level [are the only ones who can give the order]. It's not something you can do based on emotion."

Meanwhile, Chuck Ardo, a spokesman for Gov. Rendell, insisted that the governor has no authority over how the American flag is flown.

Officials from Nutter's office did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment on the flag issue.

And officials from the International Association of Firefighters' Local Union 22 in Philadelphia said they backed Ayers' stance.

Ayers emphasized that his department stands firmly by the Police Department in its time of grief.

"We understand the emotion, and no one, outside of that officer's family and the Police Department, feels this more than I. We go to the front lines with them all the time, and we work with them and they work with us," Ayers said.

"Many times, we are right beside each other. We'll have paramedics working on injured police, and the police will carry a burn victim to the hospital.

"When they bleed, we feel it. For someone to say or think we'd prevent the mourning of this officer being shot and killed is ludicrous and doesn't make much sense."

Ayers said that sometimes, individual firehouses may occasionally lower the flag momentarily out of emotion, but "it's a federal law, and not something they can just do," he said.

"The law is real clear."

Ayers said his department is honoring the heroism of Liczbinski by allowing members to wear mourning ribbons.

"We want to be able to support the police, and we can't always do different things, but we will allow the mourning-ribbon band until [Liczbinski] is buried," Ayers said.

"We do not want to cheapen their mourning, but this is a way we can show support."

Staff writer Tom Schmidt contributed to this report.

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